tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post7472715613021261363..comments2023-10-31T07:58:53.700-07:00Comments on Musings of a Mangalorean Girl: Oh Mangalore!Roweena D'Souzahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17832123465791425798noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-64988616110903395662009-05-13T09:52:00.000-07:002009-05-13T09:52:00.000-07:00@Hriday, which Anonymous are you calling well info...@Hriday, which Anonymous are you calling well informed? I think there are at least 4 different Anons!Roweena D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832123465791425798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-56311252797781888172009-05-13T08:10:00.000-07:002009-05-13T08:10:00.000-07:00Whoa man! @Anonymous. you are certainly well infor...Whoa man! @Anonymous. you are certainly well informed. i wonder why you prefer to stay anonymous. I agree with your informed opinionsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13287903873646494033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-718765446426147812008-10-08T03:06:00.000-07:002008-10-08T03:06:00.000-07:00Hmmm.. Since a lot of "Anonymous" folks are having...Hmmm.. Since a lot of "Anonymous" folks are having a party at someone else's expense, I think I'll gatecrash too!<BR/><BR/>Roweena,<BR/>I remember having skimmed the new topics of your blog before, but I never read these in details.. moreover, I seem to be relying on the wrong news media (Rediff!) and hence was blissfully unaware of such large scale attacks on Christians!<BR/><BR/>I condemn attacks on anyone for any cause. Be it religious, financial, or plain bullying. I can't speak a lot on behalf of other states, but it has been hard to understand the reasons behind several riots in Karnataka too! For instance why should 3 innocent people die because Dr. Rajkumar died of natural causes? How much more kaveri water have we got by beating our Tamilian friends? As I understand it, a lot of the violence in those riots are a result of economic disparity, and some antisocial elements waiting for a chance to payback. For instance, the shiny new cars are the first to be shattered and burnt. The riot officers correctly point to the large construction granite rocks used to cause damage, even when there is no construction going around the site being damaged!<BR/><BR/>But unfortunately, there is also a deep rooted mistrust and resentment amongst the educated people! Part of it is propaganda, but part of it is human nature, i.e. herd instincts! If you look around the world, countries are usually formed on the basis of religion, language, ethnicity etc. It has always surprised me that despite all odds and differences, we have always managed to stick together as Indians! So while all these religious scuffles should be dealt with sternly, there is no cure until everyone open their hearts and minds, and accept others for who they are. Fellow human beings. Nothing more, nothing less.<BR/><BR/>As far as conversions go, if the person undergoing the religious conversion does not have a problem, why should anyone else have one? If you think that a person accepting gifts to convert himself is an insult to his intelligence, then tell HIM that news. Why whack the priest doing the conversion, or hate the other church-goers? In a democratic society like ours, the Church is as free to do its preaching as the VHP. What are you afraid of? If you feel that your gullible countrymen may fall for the carrot and the stick, then show them the "right" way PEACEFULLY! In the end, they have to decide for their own welfare. So they are free to pick the religion of their choice.<BR/><BR/>In short, let me ask all the resenting "anonymous" this:<BR/>If a poor person converts in lieu of monetary and social benefits, why are you sad? Would you be happier if that person did not convert and died in his poverty? Are you doing anything to help him out of his misery? If not, why resent someone else who is?<BR/><BR/>In closing, I'd like to point to the link that actually dragged me to this blog:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/4kad6gAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-85188592780597527162008-09-30T08:17:00.000-07:002008-09-30T08:17:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-27989773605951039332008-09-21T06:51:00.000-07:002008-09-21T06:51:00.000-07:00The study of gene pool of India in 2007 proved tha...The study of gene pool of India in 2007 proved that they remain unchanged for at least 50000 years. <BR/><BR/>So sad, that your AIT claims that Aryans invaded around 2500 BC. <BR/><BR/>AIT does not stand in front of scientific evidence. <BR/><BR/>Aryan-Dravidan divide was invented by the British as part of their divide & rule.<BR/><BR/>BTW, people do not look the same if they follow the same religion. It depends on many criteria like place, climate etc. Got it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-34859771257779038522008-09-20T10:41:00.000-07:002008-09-20T10:41:00.000-07:00Hinduism is foreign. North Indians are foreigners!...Hinduism is foreign. North Indians are foreigners! And Ramayana is the tale of North Indian versus South Indians. The Aryan Invasion Theory is proved quite corroboratively besides the very fact that these people are so different from us and so despicable is proof enough!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-40440152524986073922008-09-19T06:17:00.000-07:002008-09-19T06:17:00.000-07:00Please sign the petition:http://www.petitiononline...Please sign the petition:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.petitiononline.com/UnitedM/" REL="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/UnitedM/</A><BR/><BR/>-MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-8619451057079274382008-09-18T10:29:00.000-07:002008-09-18T10:29:00.000-07:00To the last anonymous,>>Even Hinduism is not...To the last anonymous,<BR/><BR/>>>Even Hinduism is not indigenous to India. It is documented that Aryans bought this religion into India, and drove us Dravids down south from North India.<<<BR/><BR/>Both the Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT) and its beaten up version Aryan Migration Theory (AMT), do not have sufficient archaeological evidence. Hence what you claim is just another theory. To claim this as history is simply false. These theories are increasingly being seen as a tool used by the British to divide India. <BR/><BR/>While many Indians do not actively support the actions of Bajrang Dal and similar outfits, resentment against conversion is real. This is not petty politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-87408004908454129672008-09-18T03:07:00.000-07:002008-09-18T03:07:00.000-07:00Even Hinduism is not indigenous to India. It is do...Even Hinduism is not indigenous to India. It is documented that Aryans bought this religion into India, and drove us Dravids down south from North India. The resentment against conversions is political. Hinduism introduced caste system and enslaved people for centuries. Christians educated these people, who were once the traditional vote banks of the politicians. They resent that and not the conversions. The common Indian is least bothered about conversions!<BR/><BR/>http://www.persecution.in/node/3082Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-20907390136120540022008-09-17T13:17:00.000-07:002008-09-17T13:17:00.000-07:00Its not that only the sacred places of Christians ...Its not that only the sacred places of Christians are desecrated in India. Thousands of temples had been brought down. Even today, idol stolen, places of pilgrimage vandalized.<BR/><BR/>The problem is much deeper yet simple to understand. <BR/><BR/>There is no point in claiming that <BR/><BR/>I am a catholic<BR/>I do not do any harm <BR/>that born again is the culprit, <BR/><BR/>when outside world views both of you as Christians.<BR/><BR/>For all the good the community has done there is a deep rooted belief in India that Chrisitans are bent on converting people to other religion.<BR/><BR/>Whether today's Chrisitians espouse that view or not but there is a sense of negative thought about the Christian community that they do all their "service" for a moral benefit (reaping souls for Christ). <BR/><BR/>India is a country proud of its heritage. In all its history, Indians had fought for their religions mostly through debates. A religion must be intellectually sound to gain acceptance in India (here i refer to the indigenously developed religions in India).<BR/><BR/>While a Christian may view providing food and shelter to a needy might turn him/her in understanding the compassion of the Chrisitans and ultimately the religion. This is by means seen as a form of bribe. It is insulting his/her intelligence. Its like hitting under the belt.<BR/><BR/>Hence, this kind of conversions have evoked a certain insecurity and displeasure among Indians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-49014614105401706852008-09-17T12:03:00.000-07:002008-09-17T12:03:00.000-07:00Dear Anonymous,Agree that all communities within t...Dear Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Agree that all communities within the Christian community are regarded as one. However what is your point? <BR/><BR/>Not once in my post have I denied that there may be conversion projects going on in parts of the world, I have attempted to throw light on the fact that those affected in Mangalore are the ones who have tried to uplift the society and India not their own religion. I would condone forceful conversion, but propaganda, pamphlets? It’s all about how you respond to them. Using that as a justification for desecrating Sacred places of worship will take us nowhere. Adoration convent in Milagres is a place of dwelling for the Cloistered Carmelites; they don’t even get out of the convent! Why target such peaceful places?Roweena D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832123465791425798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-5100471337169935862008-09-17T11:13:00.000-07:002008-09-17T11:13:00.000-07:00The problem is Christians are viewed as a single e...The problem is Christians are viewed as a single entity not as catholics or protestants etc. Non-christians do not know/care much about the sub-sect of a religion similar to how Muslim is always a muslim whether Sunni or Shia. <BR/><BR/>While I do understand your feelings, your view points are of elitist nature. Not connected to grassroots.<BR/><BR/>It cannot be denied that there are conversion projects going on. If you want example, try this, http://www.joshuaproject.net/<BR/><BR/>Even peaceful communities suffer due to others mischiefs. Evangelicals are actively preaching hatred. They are imposing their values in the name of religion. <BR/><BR/>Christianity is a supremacist religion bent on world domination. It is not through peaceful means always. The church has employed all means available to assert its control in the past and even in the present.<BR/><BR/>I am not very surprised you do not understand the resentment in India over the self-righteous boasting by Christians that they are civilized etc.<BR/><BR/>When the root of the problem lies with your community, you can hardly blame others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22370793.post-46002044618543324772008-09-17T03:04:00.000-07:002008-09-17T03:04:00.000-07:00Well said!!!Well said!!!silverinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16474136215458639419noreply@blogger.com